Apparently NY SWOLE has NEVER HAD A LOVED ONE MURDERED!!!!
Because if you had, you wouldn't expect the family not to have HATRED and ANGER towards the murderers!!!
(Oops, so sorry, ALL CAPS AGAIN!!!!! I don't want to scare you with my personality disorder, doc)
BUT ONCE AGAIN:
The superior court panel wrote that it is undisputed that Wideman and his companions shot the victim. Thereby setting into motion the chain of events culminating in the victims death. Had the victim not received prompt treatment, he would have died as a result to the gunshot wound to his lung
DID YOU READ THAT????
LUNG NOT SHOULDER (as the Widemans are trying to make people believe) right from the SUPERIOR COURT???
ONCE AGAIN PROVEN FREEROBERTWIDEMAN.ORG IS FULL OF LIES!!!
ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE MURDER OF NICK MORENA!!
I'm sorry that my ignorance proves facts
Robert admits to yelling to Michael Dukes to "get him" as Nick being unarmed, was running from 3 armed men!
Robert and his accomplices were heroin addicts, drug dealers, con artists and armed robbers! It tells all about that in Brothers and Keepers!
Nick was going to purchase televisions from these junkies, and it was a crime, but there were no televisions!! He didn't deserve to lose his life! And as for the Slabys, they weren't convicted of anything because there were no televisions!! Had Nick not been SHOT IN HIS BACK, neither him nor the Slabys could have been convicted of something that wasn't there!
Nick was shot around 7:15 and died 2 hours later at the second hospital, not several hours later as the Widemans are stating......That proof can be found on Widemans website under the court transcripts. (Even though it is shocking that they did put something true on there, it can be found there!)
And furthermore you should really look back at the court transcripts from the Superior Court if you are going to look at anything!
The superior court panel wrote that it is undisputed that Wideman and his companions shot the victim. Thereby setting into motion the chain of events culminating in the victims death. Had the victim not received prompt treatment, he would have died as a result to the gunshot wound to his lung
DID YOU READ THAT????
LUNG NOT SHOULDER (as the Widemans are trying to make people believe) right from the SUPERIOR COURT???
ONCE AGAIN PROVEN FREEROBERTWIDEMAN.ORG IS FULL OF LIES!!!
ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE MURDER OF NICK MORENA!!
WHAT IS WRONG WITH SOCIETY IS THE CRIMINALS THAT THEY LET BACK ON THE STREETS TO REPEAT THE CRIMES THAT THEY COMMITTED OR POSSIBLY DO WORSE!
A good example of this is your poor Robert Wideman! If Robert had been incarcerated when he was caught with some of the drugs that he was pushing at the time, instead of letting him go back out on the streets to sell more, him and his accomplices wouldn't have been out robbing used car dealers and gas stations! NICK MORENA WAS ROBBED AND KILLED AROUND A MONTH AFTER WIDEMAN BEING BUSTED FOR SELLING DRUGS AND RELEASED!
As far as God goes, if you remember here, Robert stated that he tried different religions and making deals with God, but GOD DON'T MAKE NO DEALS! Especially with the devil! Our God has made sure that he is placed where he is so that he can't be out on the streets, selling his drugs, robbing people and possibly taking another persons life!
As for Wideman's story being in the paper, if it wasn't for the fact that he had a brother that was a famous author, it wouldn't be! Other people are in prison, who committed the same type of crime, and they aren't getting the publicity like Robert is. They aren't crying innocent after robbing and killing a man! They aren't trying to put the blame on the doctors. And again, the Superior court agrees that NICK WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED MEDICAL TREATMENT HAD HE NOT BEEN SHOT IN THE BACK BY MICHAEL DUKES WHEN ROBERT TOLD HIM TO "GET HIM"!
Obviously NOTHING is wrong with his conviction, because he lost everyone of his appeals including his appeal for a new trial! He deserves the sentence he received! He deserves LIFE IN PRISON!
As far as being hating people, yes we do hate drug pushers and junkies and murderers! They all need to be locked up! Nick wasn't any of the above and he didn't get a second chance! ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES TO ROT IN JAIL!!
I have lived this story throughout the years. I remember when I first heard of the book "Brothers and Keepers" by John Edgar Wideman. I saw the interview with Robert Wideman on the Patrice King Brown show. I rushed to buy the book and read it. I figured that John wrote this book hoping that it would free his brother from prison.
When I saw this article in the City Paper, I again read the book and did some searching on the internet. Through doing this, I myself have proven that Robert Wideman, as people have commented here, is still trying to con people as he serves his life sentence.
Robert states here that he went bad when they moved from Shadyside to Homewood, he took a turn for the worse then, Contradictory to that are his words in the book. They moved from Shadyside, (where he didn't feel comfortable with all the white people), to his grandfathers' house in Homewood just when he was entering high school. He was happy about the move. Happy to be away from all the white folks. He had already found Garfield, where the black folks were, along about junior high. Partying, drinking wine and trying anything they could get their hands on.
In this article and on Robert Wideman's website, he states that Nick Morena was shot in the shoulder by his accomplice.
This definitely contradicts the true facts. The man was shot in the back with a 357 Magnum. That is public knowledge and can be found several places.
More contradiction can be found in the book that he co-authored with his brother. In the book it states that Robert yelled "get em" to Michael Dukes. He fired a warning shot into the air. Nick stumbled or was just plain scared shitless and his feet gave out from under him. Within 3 or 4 seconds the second shot was fired. He was sure that Nick was going for a gun. Mike said "I'm not going to wait till I wake up in heaven or hell to find out for sure if he had a gun!" He was sure enough to pull the trigger! These are the words from HIS BOOK!
Robert during this time, was busy gathering up the money that was blowing around on the ground on the other side of the truck. He didn't know that Nick was running until Dukes told him. He then yells to an armed man to "get em"! So what do you think an armed man is going to do? Drop his gun and run after Nick? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!
Robert also states in this paper that they got $800. In the book he states, "And the money aint half what it ought to be. Not even half of half, it turned out." The money was exactly what it was supposed to be, $800!
He states here that he didn't even think that Mike hit him. Another contradiction from Robert Wideman. He states in the book that "one dude was shot and running for the cops", And then, once again contradicts himself in the book that he didn't even think he was hit !
I just had to add this comment to let people know that this man, Robert Wideman, is trying to claim that he is a changed man but it seems like the only thing that continues to change are his stories! Doing so in hopes that people will feel sorry for him and free him from prison!
A man receiving stolen property does not deserve to die for his actions!! Yet, a man that takes another mans' life does! He shouldn't even have the opportunity to live a life of leisure in prison where the taxpayers are supporting him! As a matter of fact, Nick Morena never received any stolen goods from Robert Wideman. The only thing he received was a fatal gunshot in his back from a 357 Magnum! Robert Wideman has not changed because he still continues to lie and con from behind bars! He stated on his website that Nick was shot in the shoulder and the hospital didn't properly bandage his wound! That is a LIE! You also need to read the book him and his brother wrote.....you will learn a lot! And as for wishing ill to the already suffering, he deserves all of the suffering he gets! The Morena family are the true suffering people here. Everytime you turn around they have to be publicly reminded of the day that Nick was killed, the day he was laid out and the day he was buried. The days of the 3 trials they had to sit through and listen as these men were tried for the robbery and murder of Nick Morena. And all because Robert Wideman thinks he should be a free man! He deserves to rot in jail just as one of the other people posted here!
And furthermore, Mr Schwartz or DGS49 my brother didn't approach them with the offer, the drug pushing junkies approached him!!! All because they needed money so they could go back to Detroit and get more heroin to sell on the streets since the heroin they had previously drove to Detroit to get went bad because RW got ratted out by a friend of his ex-girlfriend! My brother worked for a living, not pushing drugs to make his money!
The cause of him having to go the hospital was the gunshot wound from a 357 magnum that Michael Dukes shot when RW told him to. And not only did he shoot that gun once, he shot it three times!!! AND AGAIN IN THE BACK, NOT THE SHOULDER!!! THROUGH THE BACK AND OUT THE CHEST WITH A 357 MAGNUM!!!!!DO YOU HEAR THAT????
And as I told you in court, my family GOT A GRAVE!!!! A GRAVE TO GO TO THAT'S WHAT WE GOT!!!! And you know the amount of money that my brothers estate received, so why do you have to lie and say it was a multimillion dollar settlement? HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE THE WIDEMANS RECEIVED FROM THE BOOK THAT BECAUSE OF MY BROTHERS DEATH!!!!!! Come on Mr Schwartz, lets talk dollar amounts now! POST ON HERE HOW MUCH MONEY!!! Why don't you make it public knowledge how much you have made from the Widemans?
You really have the nerve to say that we are still mourning his loss! Apparently you have never been in any victims shoes and I can't wait until the day that you are! KARMA!
Yes, I would rather see my brother in prison for criminal conspiracy than have to go to a damn grave to visit his tombstone! And no I wouldn't be embarrassed if he was in prison! At least he would still be alive!! I would have the chance to see him!
And you want to talk about games? RW was hoping that since McGregor awarded him a new trial that the state wouldn't even make him go to trial again because it would cost too much money! The only games that were being played there were the games that were being played on RWs behalf. Not on the DAs behalf. The DA did the right thing!
Maybe you need to read the definition of Second Degree Murder! IT WAS PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT NICK'S DEATH WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE GUNSHOT WOUND IN HIS BACK FROM A 357 MAGNUM! HAD HE NOT BEEN SHOT, HE WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED MEDICAL TREATMENT!!!! RW AND DUKES WENT THERE INTENTIONALLY WITH THE LOADED GUNS TO ROB HIM! AND THE MURDER HAPPENED DURING THE ROBBERY!
THEREFORE, THE RW AND DUKES WERE SENTENCED WITH SECOND DEGREE MURDER!!
Apparently, as Bravo23 stated, you haven't read the book, Brothers and Keepers. As for myself, I have. And if you remember, it was entered into evidence at RWs "new found evidence hearing".
And last but not least, how can RW be rehabilitated when even from inside the prison walls, he continues to lie and try conning people?
Robert Wideman fails to say that Nick Morena was only 24 years old at the time. How many 24 years old own their own car lot? He had a future ahead of him! Unlike his son, who was killed when somebody came in his house and shot him! And that was because of drugs!!! Robert Wideman does not deserve to live let alone walk the streets!!! He is not the victim!!!! The Morena family are the victims! They have to live without Nick everyday! For 35 years, they have visited a grave! For 35 years they have had to imagine his voice, not be able to hear it! What does he not only want us to feel sorry for him because he is the victim of a bad sentence but to also feel sorry for him because he lost his son? PLEASE!!!! THERE IS NO PITY FOR HIM!!!!!!!!
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Because if you had, you wouldn't expect the family not to have HATRED and ANGER towards the murderers!!!
(Oops, so sorry, ALL CAPS AGAIN!!!!! I don't want to scare you with my personality disorder, doc)
BUT ONCE AGAIN:
The superior court panel wrote that it is undisputed that Wideman and his companions shot the victim. Thereby setting into motion the chain of events culminating in the victims death. Had the victim not received prompt treatment, he would have died as a result to the gunshot wound to his lung
DID YOU READ THAT????
LUNG NOT SHOULDER (as the Widemans are trying to make people believe) right from the SUPERIOR COURT???
ONCE AGAIN PROVEN FREEROBERTWIDEMAN.ORG IS FULL OF LIES!!!
ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE MURDER OF NICK MORENA!!
Robert admits to yelling to Michael Dukes to "get him" as Nick being unarmed, was running from 3 armed men!
Robert and his accomplices were heroin addicts, drug dealers, con artists and armed robbers! It tells all about that in Brothers and Keepers!
Nick was going to purchase televisions from these junkies, and it was a crime, but there were no televisions!! He didn't deserve to lose his life! And as for the Slabys, they weren't convicted of anything because there were no televisions!! Had Nick not been SHOT IN HIS BACK, neither him nor the Slabys could have been convicted of something that wasn't there!
Nick was shot around 7:15 and died 2 hours later at the second hospital, not several hours later as the Widemans are stating......That proof can be found on Widemans website under the court transcripts. (Even though it is shocking that they did put something true on there, it can be found there!)
And furthermore you should really look back at the court transcripts from the Superior Court if you are going to look at anything!
The superior court panel wrote that it is undisputed that Wideman and his companions shot the victim. Thereby setting into motion the chain of events culminating in the victims death. Had the victim not received prompt treatment, he would have died as a result to the gunshot wound to his lung
DID YOU READ THAT????
LUNG NOT SHOULDER (as the Widemans are trying to make people believe) right from the SUPERIOR COURT???
ONCE AGAIN PROVEN FREEROBERTWIDEMAN.ORG IS FULL OF LIES!!!
ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES A LIFE SENTENCE FOR THE MURDER OF NICK MORENA!!
A good example of this is your poor Robert Wideman! If Robert had been incarcerated when he was caught with some of the drugs that he was pushing at the time, instead of letting him go back out on the streets to sell more, him and his accomplices wouldn't have been out robbing used car dealers and gas stations! NICK MORENA WAS ROBBED AND KILLED AROUND A MONTH AFTER WIDEMAN BEING BUSTED FOR SELLING DRUGS AND RELEASED!
As far as God goes, if you remember here, Robert stated that he tried different religions and making deals with God, but GOD DON'T MAKE NO DEALS! Especially with the devil! Our God has made sure that he is placed where he is so that he can't be out on the streets, selling his drugs, robbing people and possibly taking another persons life!
As for Wideman's story being in the paper, if it wasn't for the fact that he had a brother that was a famous author, it wouldn't be! Other people are in prison, who committed the same type of crime, and they aren't getting the publicity like Robert is. They aren't crying innocent after robbing and killing a man! They aren't trying to put the blame on the doctors. And again, the Superior court agrees that NICK WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED MEDICAL TREATMENT HAD HE NOT BEEN SHOT IN THE BACK BY MICHAEL DUKES WHEN ROBERT TOLD HIM TO "GET HIM"!
Obviously NOTHING is wrong with his conviction, because he lost everyone of his appeals including his appeal for a new trial! He deserves the sentence he received! He deserves LIFE IN PRISON!
As far as being hating people, yes we do hate drug pushers and junkies and murderers! They all need to be locked up! Nick wasn't any of the above and he didn't get a second chance! ROBERT WIDEMAN DESERVES TO ROT IN JAIL!!
When I saw this article in the City Paper, I again read the book and did some searching on the internet. Through doing this, I myself have proven that Robert Wideman, as people have commented here, is still trying to con people as he serves his life sentence.
Robert states here that he went bad when they moved from Shadyside to Homewood, he took a turn for the worse then, Contradictory to that are his words in the book. They moved from Shadyside, (where he didn't feel comfortable with all the white people), to his grandfathers' house in Homewood just when he was entering high school. He was happy about the move. Happy to be away from all the white folks. He had already found Garfield, where the black folks were, along about junior high. Partying, drinking wine and trying anything they could get their hands on.
In this article and on Robert Wideman's website, he states that Nick Morena was shot in the shoulder by his accomplice.
This definitely contradicts the true facts. The man was shot in the back with a 357 Magnum. That is public knowledge and can be found several places.
More contradiction can be found in the book that he co-authored with his brother. In the book it states that Robert yelled "get em" to Michael Dukes. He fired a warning shot into the air. Nick stumbled or was just plain scared shitless and his feet gave out from under him. Within 3 or 4 seconds the second shot was fired. He was sure that Nick was going for a gun. Mike said "I'm not going to wait till I wake up in heaven or hell to find out for sure if he had a gun!" He was sure enough to pull the trigger! These are the words from HIS BOOK!
Robert during this time, was busy gathering up the money that was blowing around on the ground on the other side of the truck. He didn't know that Nick was running until Dukes told him. He then yells to an armed man to "get em"! So what do you think an armed man is going to do? Drop his gun and run after Nick? I HIGHLY DOUBT IT!
Robert also states in this paper that they got $800. In the book he states, "And the money aint half what it ought to be. Not even half of half, it turned out." The money was exactly what it was supposed to be, $800!
He states here that he didn't even think that Mike hit him. Another contradiction from Robert Wideman. He states in the book that "one dude was shot and running for the cops", And then, once again contradicts himself in the book that he didn't even think he was hit !
I just had to add this comment to let people know that this man, Robert Wideman, is trying to claim that he is a changed man but it seems like the only thing that continues to change are his stories! Doing so in hopes that people will feel sorry for him and free him from prison!
The cause of him having to go the hospital was the gunshot wound from a 357 magnum that Michael Dukes shot when RW told him to. And not only did he shoot that gun once, he shot it three times!!! AND AGAIN IN THE BACK, NOT THE SHOULDER!!! THROUGH THE BACK AND OUT THE CHEST WITH A 357 MAGNUM!!!!!DO YOU HEAR THAT????
And as I told you in court, my family GOT A GRAVE!!!! A GRAVE TO GO TO THAT'S WHAT WE GOT!!!! And you know the amount of money that my brothers estate received, so why do you have to lie and say it was a multimillion dollar settlement? HOW MUCH MONEY HAVE THE WIDEMANS RECEIVED FROM THE BOOK THAT BECAUSE OF MY BROTHERS DEATH!!!!!! Come on Mr Schwartz, lets talk dollar amounts now! POST ON HERE HOW MUCH MONEY!!! Why don't you make it public knowledge how much you have made from the Widemans?
You really have the nerve to say that we are still mourning his loss! Apparently you have never been in any victims shoes and I can't wait until the day that you are! KARMA!
Yes, I would rather see my brother in prison for criminal conspiracy than have to go to a damn grave to visit his tombstone! And no I wouldn't be embarrassed if he was in prison! At least he would still be alive!! I would have the chance to see him!
And you want to talk about games? RW was hoping that since McGregor awarded him a new trial that the state wouldn't even make him go to trial again because it would cost too much money! The only games that were being played there were the games that were being played on RWs behalf. Not on the DAs behalf. The DA did the right thing!
Maybe you need to read the definition of Second Degree Murder! IT WAS PROVEN BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT NICK'S DEATH WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURRED HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE GUNSHOT WOUND IN HIS BACK FROM A 357 MAGNUM! HAD HE NOT BEEN SHOT, HE WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED MEDICAL TREATMENT!!!! RW AND DUKES WENT THERE INTENTIONALLY WITH THE LOADED GUNS TO ROB HIM! AND THE MURDER HAPPENED DURING THE ROBBERY!
THEREFORE, THE RW AND DUKES WERE SENTENCED WITH SECOND DEGREE MURDER!!
Apparently, as Bravo23 stated, you haven't read the book, Brothers and Keepers. As for myself, I have. And if you remember, it was entered into evidence at RWs "new found evidence hearing".
And last but not least, how can RW be rehabilitated when even from inside the prison walls, he continues to lie and try conning people?