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Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

Unfortunate that so called animal rights activists do not spend their time focusing on paper mills, logging operations, fences, mines, highways & roads, dams, coal plants and all the actual things that kill, maim, starve, torture and otherwise damage animals and animal communities. Instead they attack one of the last places on earth were animals have sanctuary and are at the very least, understood, loved and valued as fellow creatures on this planet. Some metaphor about the forest and some tress...

Posted by quern on 08/23/2018 at 7:01 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

I always find it amusing when liberals eat their own.
BTW, PeTA is basically a domestic terrorist organization.

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Posted by centrist on 04/18/2017 at 7:45 AM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

Just a "minor" note (although it isn't minor in a journalistic sense): this story isn't about PeTA. PeTA jumped in at the last minute when they saw a trending issue and grabbed the media spotlight. Why on earth City Paper made it sound like it was all about PeTA when there has been a relentless, popular, locally-based campaign in the city for a couple of years now working to get animal circuses banned here, I really don't know. Not fair play, CP.

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Posted by zz22 on 04/17/2017 at 9:16 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

It boggles the mind that Ms. Harris couldn't find the volumes of damning information about this circus with a 30 second Google search. That kind of ignorance is willful. If she is an "animal lover" as she claims, exploiting an elephant and camel for her photo op is a strange way of showing it.

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Posted by jen ocon on 04/17/2017 at 7:24 AM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

Congratulations to Council woman Harris. I took the same ride over 60 years ago......and never forgot what is was like to be that close to a majestic elephant and a camel. It made me a lifelong circus fan. Sorry, the era is over for the most part as the circus is a conservation entity of the elephant and camel that you experienced. As you know elephants no matter where they live, usually have jobs.
The circus has been a target of ASPCA, HSUS, ALDF and of course PETA, and other ARs philosophical ideology for over 150 years. It is time the vegan animal rights philosophical movement give them a rest.

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Posted by Anomyous on 04/15/2017 at 9:37 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

Thank you to the Pittsburgh City Paper for covering this issue of elephant exploitation and cruelty, and for including a portion of my comment on Councilor Harris' Facebook page. A minor correction; my name is Lori, not Lisa. It's disappointing that a city councilor should condone and participate in circus elephant-back riding, and be a poor example to her constituents.

PETA's John Di Leonardo has noted the multiple animal welfare violations involving the elephants that the Shrine Circus leases from Carson & Barnes, and as I further noted on Councilor Harris' page, the states of Rhode Island and California have both banned the use of bullhooks on elephants.

Bullhooks resemble fireplace pokers and are weapons of fear, domination and abuse. Their sharp tips are used to hook elephants in their most tender areas, including behind their ears and legs, and in their mouths and genitals, to force them to submit and obey. Elephants, no matter how "tamed" by breaking their spirit through abusive circus training, remain wild animals and do not willingly accept riders on their backs. Anyone who believes elephants enjoy doing so, or enjoy performing degrading tricks in the circus, is sadly misinformed.

In addition, there are public safety concerns involving circus elephant acts and rides. The Centers for Disease Control estimates that a minimum of 12% of all captive elephants in the US has been exposed to TB (tuberculosis), an airborne bacterium which is transmissible between elephants and humans.

Circuses have also been cited for failing to control elephants at all times, including while giving rides, and elephants are capable of injuring or killing people when they've had enough of circus abuse. Elephants have rampaged (Google Tyke in Honolulu in 1994), escaped, stomped on trainers, and at 6,000-8,000 lbs. they're capable of causing grievous bodily harm and death to people.

We have safety standards for workplaces, automobiles, and amusement park rides; why on earth would anyone risk their safety or that of their children by climbing or placing them onto the back of an 8,000-lb. wild animal?

I hope that Councilor Harris makes the time and effort to learn more about circus elephant abuse and supports City Council President Kraus' proposed ordinance to ban the use of wild and exotic animals for entertainment in Pittsburgh. It's past time for society to recognize that there's nothing amusing about animal cruelty.

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Posted by Lori Sirianni on 04/14/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

I'm with PETA. Elephants aren't amusement park rides and shouldn't be treated as such. They are living beings. Abusing and exploiting them for our own selfish purposes is cruel and dangerous.

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Posted by Heather Moore on 04/14/2017 at 4:49 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

I'm glad PETA answered Councilwoman Harris' request for proof of abuse taking place in the circus. Perhaps the long list of abuses will cause her to have a change of heart!

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Posted by Lucy Post on 04/14/2017 at 3:06 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

I'm with PETA. Have a heart, Councilwoman Harris.

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Posted by Kim Marie on 04/14/2017 at 2:39 PM

Re: “Animal rights group PETA calls out Pittsburgh City Councilor Harris for elephant ride

Councilwoman Harris should apologize. Anyone who truly advocates for animals wouldn't show such an alarming indifference to their exploitation.

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Posted by Craig Shapiro on 04/14/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

The strange paradox of the 'progressive' gender advocates - we need to ban all forms of therapy to minors that attempts to change sexual orientation because that would be homophobic. But we should actively provide synthetic hormones, hormone blockers or gender reassignment surgery to minors who believe they were born in the wrong biological body - because to it would be transphobic not to.

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Posted by Wil Cee on 12/03/2016 at 9:05 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

No one is parenting anyone's children here. The STRONG MESSAGE is that our city will refuse to demonize sexual minorities under the incoming Trump regime.

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Posted by Amy Cimini on 12/01/2016 at 1:16 AM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

ACTNYC: But it is the city's place to outlaw child abuse, which conversion therapy amounts to.

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Posted by Judith English Friedl on 11/30/2016 at 11:25 AM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

This shouldn't be something that requires an ordinance: to me it seems like backlash paranoia. It is obviously well-intentioned but it seems to me that it seeks to accomplish something that is more rightly done by simple openness and compassion and good example.

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Posted by John Peter Napolitano on 11/30/2016 at 5:12 AM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

This concerns me that the city thinks it is their place to parent someone else's children

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Posted by agtnyc on 11/29/2016 at 11:39 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

This is wonderful to hear. Conversion Therapy is dangerous snake oil and has no place in our city.

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Posted by Valerie Klauscher on 11/29/2016 at 10:45 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

DIANA SIMS. If I chose to be gay, when did you choose to be straight?
Conversion therapy is dangerous. The child will grow up thinking every thing he or she is, is dirty, ugly, sinful, they will come to hate themselves.

Concerning leaving the parents to parent, unfortunately many parents don't know the first thing about being a parent. In this case, the parents need to be told not to destroy their child.

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Posted by Katherine Birsch-Pierson on 11/29/2016 at 10:12 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

There are plenty of times when people make decisions you or I wouldn't make. That does not by default mean you should regulate the choice. Leave parenting to the parents.

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Posted by Diana Sims on 11/29/2016 at 9:29 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council introduces city ban on conversion therapy

Thank you for doing what is right.

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Posted by anya247 on 11/29/2016 at 8:47 PM

Re: “Pittsburgh City Council hears from advocates on gender-equity bill

Many wonderful female and male community members took time out their day to speak as advocates, clinicians, researchers, and citizens. It seems relevant to note that none of our five male City Council members attended any part of this hearing.

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Posted by Rachel A. Fusco on 11/19/2016 at 12:02 PM

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