The cops outside Club Zoo in the Strip District say kids in face paint have been waiting for the place to open since morning. When the doors finally open at 7 that evening, the liquid that’s confiscated most often isn’t bottom-shelf vodka; it’s Faygo, a Detroit brand of pop. Today, it’s more like holy water. Though it’s getting tossed into giant trashcans, inside it will flow. And flow, and flow.
The kids are juggalos — devotees in the cult of Insane Clown Posse, a pair of white-boy rappers from suburban Detroit who’ve earned hero status with self-identified outcasts the world over through hyper-violent lyrics and over-the-top stage shows. Pittsburgh is a juggalo hotbed, including an annual mass visit to Kennywood Park.
The group’s status comes despite — or maybe because of — receiving almost no video airplay and almost no major-label backing. ICP fans say they are united by their outsider status and loving acceptance of one another. They call their fandom a family, which manifests itself in signoffs on e-mails and Internet postings: MMFCL, or Much Muthafuckin’ Clown Love.
Family members are easy to pick out at ICP shows. Lots of fans ape the black-and-white “wicked clown” face paint affected by ICP’s Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J. Fans collect T-shirts and hockey-style jerseys emblazoned with ICP insignia or those of other bands on ICP’s recording label, Psychopathic. And the Psychopathic logo, a little red man with spiky, twisted hair and brandishing a hatchet, is everywhere in the crowd: on shirts and medallions and inked into flesh.
At an ICP show, the Faygo is the blood of the beast formed by the band and the crowd. At one show early in the group’s career, a booing audience member threw some on the stage, the guys threw it back, and a movement was born. It’s as much a part of the stage show as the makeup and the microphones.
Call it shtick, call it a gimmick — many do. The group, begun in 1990, calls its violent, circus imagery the “dark carnival.” The term “juggalo” comes from Violent J’s early juggler persona. Six of ICP’s 19 albums and EPs are known as “joker cards” and are supposed to reveal some greater truth about the world to juggalos and anyone else who listens. The final joker card, The Wraith, claims that the entire experience has been about God and righteousness all along — the cartoonish violence was meant as retribution for the unrighteous: bigots, negative people and haters in general. From the song “Thy Unveiling”:
“When we speak of Shangri-La, what you think we mean? / Truth is we follow GOD, we’ve always been behind him, / The Dark Carnival is GOD and may all Juggalos find him!”
Whether God is present at Club Zoo, it’s still rock ‘n’ roll — as in “sex, drugs and …” One outrageously hammered fan sweats and shouts in smeared makeup: “I am a juggalo till the day I die! Everybody that is down, they care about everything. You can’t feel it unless you’re part of it. It’s part of everything we do.” The “it” is family, but it doesn’t stop this fan from demanding sex acts from a reporter — to the mortification of the fan’s apologetic girlfriend.
After an opening set by Drainage X, members of that band hang outside the club, explaining their take on the dark carnival.
“It’s like a fairy tale, a fantasy, a horror movie,” says Spider, the bassist. His face is painted white and his eyes appear to cry tears of blood. He’s done some backyard wrestling with ICP’s federation, a side project of the group, and was thrilled to be invited on the tour.
“Juggalos are the most loyal fans I’ve ever seen,” he says. As a metal band, Drainage X might not have gone over with the usual rap crowd. “If we came out trying to sound like Violent J, they’d say, ‘Fuck these guys.’ It’s why I’m happier to go on this tour than on a metal tour.”
Inside the club, the hatchet man is tattooed on the bared pecs of Doug Martin, of the North Side. “It’s for life,” he explains. “When they say ‘family,’ it’s no joke. They got me through a lot of hard times, like fights with my parents. It’s like therapy.”
Around 9:30, after several opening bands, the crowd becomes an organism, swirling where the mosh pit will eventually materialize. A young couple squashed against the front barricade makes out frantically. Smoke of at least two varieties billows near the stage, where sound equipment is swathed in clear tarps, like the set of a snuff film in a horror movie.
On stage, two huge, hollowed-out skulls contain hundreds of two-liter bottles of diet Faygo cola — sugary soda is too sticky to dump on eager fans, apparently. Twin crypts sit on either side of the turntable, which is behind a salad-bar sneeze guard.
Everything goes black. Blacklight strobes pulse over the crowd. With a blast of bass so loud you can feel it pushing out of the 12-foot speaker cabinets, Shaggy 2 Dope and Violent J emerge from the crypts — shaved heads, identical black outfits and crisp, dichromatic clown makeup perfectly applied.
As the refrain “Get blood everywhere!” rises, the full-on Faygo assault begins. It never lets up, not for an instant, throughout the entire hour-long set. Violent J and Shaggy 2 Dope constantly twist the tops off the bottles as they rap and dance around, squirting them, throwing them into the crowd and shaking them up full throttle, then releasing them like hyper-carbonated rockets into the sopping crowd. Soon, ghoulish lackeys emerge from the crypts, throwing Faygo and restocking the skulls’ ever-diminishing supplies. The ghouls blast Faygo from water cannons, slosh buckets of Faygo into the crowd and, between more costume changes than Britney Spears — now they’re mushroom-headed monsters, now hellish clowns — throw feathers, confetti and streamers into the Faygo-besotted crowd.
About halfway through, Shaggy’s shirt comes off and his semi-toned torso begins to steam from the Faygo, which feels freezing in the sultry club. Kids have been flinging themselves toward the stage all night, crowd-surfing on the wet, sticky hands of their family.
For the final song of the night, the orgy of thrown pop reduces visibility to blizzard levels. When the lights go on, the three-foot-wide trough between the stage and front-row crowd barrier runs thick with a muck of Faygo, feathers, confetti and several errant shoes.
Outside, the cold and stink of generic diet soda hits hard. Fans leave the show wetter than if they’d showered with all their clothes on. As they disperse into the otherwise-deserted city, a cry comes from some unseen corner: “Woo! Woo!” The reply comes from blocks away: “Woo! Woo!”
It’s the family, calling to one another.
With lyrics such as “What is a juggalo? He just don‘t care, he might try to put a weave in his nut hair,” and song titles like “I Stuck Her With My Wang” and “I Stab People,” it’s understandable that Insane Clown Posse could have something of a public-relations problem. And some violent criminals — a Massachusetts teen attacking patrons of a gay bar in February, and a gang of kids in face paint mugging people in Seattle — have ascribed their own violent impulses at least partially to the band, which doesn’t help the public perception.
Any real juggalo, the band said in a statement released after the gay-bar attack, knows that the band’s message, however violently packaged, is ultimately about tolerance. “Anyone that knows anything at all about juggalos knows that in no way, shape or form would we ever approve this type of bullshit behavior,” said the release from band manager Alex Abbiss.
Most media accounts of the juggalo experience have focused almost exclusively on this violence, and on the outright weirdness of the fandom. But what’s been overlooked, fans say, is the juggalo refuge for kids who might not have a haven and an outlet.
“It’s an outlet for kids who would otherwise be getting into fights,” says Anthony Walker, a 23-year-old juggalo from the city’s Allentown neighborhood. Criminals invoking the band’s name, “they’re not down. They’re just using it as an excuse,” he says. “We’re just a bunch of kids listening to music” — banding together as quasi-kin.
Rick and Megan Topping, 25 and 26, live in Brentwood with a 7-year-old son and another kid on the way. “I’m the educated juggalo guy,” Rick says through the makeup, touting his managerial IT job and their home and family. The 7-year-old’s not allowed to listen to ICP just yet, Megan says, though he does know that Dad wears makeup to go to ICP shows. “He thinks it’s odd for a boy to be wearing makeup,” she allows.
“We’re a big wicked clown family here,” says Bryan Pitman, who traveled a long way to see the show: He’s on leave from Iraq, coming today from his home in Akron, Ohio. He and his Army buddies treasure the music’s ability to release their aggressions. “I’ll listen to anything, whatever I can free my mind to and just relax,” he adds.
Ten years ago, when Phil Mineo started coming to ICP shows, he would spend the whole time up front, enduring the violence of the pit to be close to the clowns. “It was different back then,” says Mineo, 25, of Erie. “Now I’m just back here,” hanging in the relatively uncrowded back of the club. He met his wife through the fandom, though she’s not with him tonight — she just had their child three weeks ago. The kid’s future juggalo status is in the air, he says, since his wife is backing away from full-on juggalism herself.
Michele Knight, 21, and Paul Werme, 25, say they’ve been to scores of shows — almost 50 between them. They’ve been fans since about a decade ago, when they used to paint up.
“I like [the music] because of the issues they bring up — ‘Hell’s Pit,’ ‘Crooked Preacher Killa,’ those are about the priests and what they did to the kids and how it was wrong,” Knight says, echoing the notion that all the dreadful violence is meant to be retributive.
“People who don’t listen just think we’re freaks.”
At 25, Michael Sorg is Pittsburgh’s juggalo elder statesman.
He’s a husband, homeowner and film editor by day, but his spare time is dedicated to maintaining westernpajuggalos.com, and making music of his own in an ICP tribute group called Crap. The Web site includes wife Melissa’s juggalo advice podcast, the Missfit Advice Hour. She also answers questions on the site — questions like: “I am a juggalo and have been for quite some time, but I also like other rap music like Juvenile and like Jay-Z. Does this mean I’m not a true juggalo?”
“Down is down!” she replied. “As long as you’re down, that’s all that matters. Being down isn’t just about the music. It’s about the sense of belonging and the sense of family. As long as you’re down with that, that’s what makes you a juggalo.”
“It’s partly proximity” to Detroit, says Michael, that’s made Western Pennsylvania such a juggalo hot spot. “People have told me this was one of the original clown towns.” Some ur-juggalos scoff at newbies, whom Sorg calls mall-a-los for picking up their merch at Hot Topic or Spencer Gifts instead of at shows.
There are gradations in the fandom too, he says. “A lot of people need to prove how down they are.”
He’s moved past that now, he adds: “I haven’t done the face paint since 2001.” That was for the Gathering of the Juggalos — a mobile yearly outdoor festival that draws thousands of juggalos and bands from Psychopathic’s roster. “We slept in the car for three days,” he recalls. After that, “I didn’t want to touch face paint.”
One local fan’s tattoo commemorates the beef between ICP and another white rapper from Detroit, Eminem. A mountain of skulls climbs the guy’s shoulder, and the top of the pile is crowned with a pike impaled with the pretty blond head of Marshall Mathers, bleeding from the mouth. The bad blood started when Eminem circulated a flier for a show of his saying that ICP might stop by, without having cleared it with them first. The two camps have traded barbs in dis tracks ever since, notably in ICP’s “Nothin’ But a Bitch Thang.”
Days after the Club Zoo show, another show celebrating the five-year anniversary of Sorg’s Web site was held at HKAN, a South Side hookah bar. Featuring Crap and other local ICP-flavored groups Twisted Thoughts, Broken Wingz and No Clue, it was part of the club’s weekly “Hip Hop and Hookah” series. Emcee Ryan Cassidy of Basick Sickness, an up-and-coming local hip-hop act, hosts the show and did a set. While his tastes run far and wide, Cassidy, 23, is unable to disavow his juggalo roots.
“Back in the day, I was diehard,” he says. “I had enough [ICP] shirts to wear every day for a month.” His horizons have widened, but he still goes to the shows, and at Club Zoo, was in the pit in front of ICP. “Once you’re a juggalo, you can’t shake it.” He recalls his mother picking him up after shows back in the day, “Her car seats were covered in garbage bags” to keep the Faygo off, he says. “She made me strip down to my underwear!”
It’s easy to misunderstand what ICP and juggalos are all about, he says: “When it comes to artists, [ICP] doesn’t get one ounce of respect: It‘s a gimmick, a bunch of white dudes in face paint throwing Faygo around, are you kidding me?“
But even the band’s business acumen commands his respect. “Those motherfuckers are hustlers,” he says. “They’re eatin’ off the music and they aren’t on MTV dancing around in shiny jumpsuits. Granted, they’re in clown makeup, but no label told them to do that. They’ve never had a major label backing them.”
“Never” is not exactly accurate. The fourth joker album, The Great Milenko, was initially released by Disney-owned Hollywood Records. After Disney board members objected to some of the content, the group excised three tracks from the disc. But hours after its release, the album was pulled from shelves and ICP was dropped from the label.
The record was later re-released in its original form by Island Records. The publicity helped make it one of ICP’s most popular albums, leapfrogging to platinum status from the controversy.
What most people outside the fandom don’t understand, says Michael Sorg, is the idea of God hidden in the violence of the lyrics.
“They’re not by the letter,” he says, “but it’s in there.”
Josh Trafinchick’s induction into the family happened at age 6, when he found an unlabeled cassette tape he only later identified. But his fixation has only grown. Ten years later, the baby-faced high school student bears tell-tale signs of his fidelity — piercings and tattoos, ritual garb and an obsessive collection of paraphernalia, both purchased and homemade.
A moment in his presence, in his Belle Vernon house or walking down the street, betrays his ICP allegiance. Other disciples recognize and greet him. He spends hours each day before his computer, maintaining his Web site and communicating with other juggalos across the country. His mother, Wendy Fitman, at first skeptical of his devotion, soon found herself something of a devotee. She started istening to the music she’d only tolerated before, even when Josh wasn’t around.
“It’s truthful,” Wendy says. “It’s stuff you want to say but don’t.” Wendy wouldn’t go so far as to classify herself as a juggalette, but she’s wearing a T-shirt of Twiztid, a Psychopathic band.
Sitting in the kitchen of their neat, cheerfully decorated home — country-style Americana, Halloween and, in Josh’s bedroom, wall-to-wall ICP — the pair share an easy affection. Josh is as tolerant and respectful of his mother as any 16-year-old could be expected to be. They both talk about Josh going to college, since he is putting in all those hours teaching himself programming languages to run gzninjas.net. It’s already the top-rated site on top100psychosites.com, a site that ranks juggalo sites by counting how many visitors each gets.
Josh played the foundling cassette tape and liked the sound. It spoke to him — and it was lots of fun. As he got a little older, he searched out the lyrics online and realized this was The Riddle Box, ICP’s third joker card. He read up on the group and started downloading its music. By the time he was 14, in addition to the hatchet man on his shoulder, he had juggalo spilling down his calf.
When Wendy and Josh had lived previously in Johnstown and she started a new job, one of her coworkers began gossiping to her about a strange new kid at their children’s school — a kid with blue hair, piercings and tattoos. “I said, That‘s my son,” Wendy recalls. “I explained that I’d rather him do this, that’s not hurting anyone, rather than the drugs and the alcohol. I get a lot of flak from it but I stick up for him.”
Wendy says such criticism, which she hears from other mothers, was not entirely unexpected. She was so worried about getting into trouble for allowing Josh to get inked at 13 that she checked first with the county’s child and youth services office. But she’s proud of her son, his self-taught programming expertise, his avoidance of drugs and booze, and his creativity.
Josh and Wendy say that miscreants in face paint who commit crimes such as the Massachusetts gay-bar attack, or Seattle park muggings, aren’t really juggalos, and that the music couldn’t motivate criminal behavior.
“That’s bull,” Josh says. “Just because someone’s out there doing something retarded and saying, ‘I’m a juggalo’ … they’re not a juggalo. If you’re a juggalo, you just kick back, you like the music. We don’t want fights. We don’t want all the drama.”
This article appears in Nov 9-15, 2006.
w00t w00t!!! Im Kelc, commonly known az SkittleZ and i whuz at club zoo. it whuz so kickass being with all the family. Nothing ever gets between us. We are nothing but a family. Mere individuals guided by a light and lead to the dark carnival! I love all my homiez! Were alwayz gonna be fam! We accept eachother for who we are. And we love eachother. We neva eva take shyt. People alwayz say we aint a family, we are just fans. But were not just fans… We are the strongest, freshest family out there. If one of our juggaloz gets knocked down, we goin after the maaa facko that hurt em. Nobody messes wit our homiez! I live for the carnival, I die for the carnival. Im down with the clown and im down for life. Theres so much more to us then you all think. We are a family. Violent j and shaggs spent so much tyme startin this family up, and were never gonna break that! MMFWCL to all my homiez!
hell yeah that hell kewl im totally glad they took tha time out to do this shit hell yeah!!
thats what im talkin about
OK hey everyone!!! my name is ashlee… i was at the hallowicked show.. it was the best show ive ever been to yet.. all of our family was there.. it was a big family reunion for us.. u dont no how much it meaned to all of us.. altho.. i almost saw a fight between sum fam memebers.. it was all gravy!!! Acutally i met my boyfriend there.. haha well anyways.. i just wanna say I LOVE ALL OF MY FAMILY MEMBERSS!!.. AND IF PEOPLE WANNA DISS ON US LOOK AT THE CITY PAPER!!! IT DOENS’T LOOK LIKE YOUR HOMIES ARE ON IT !!! NOW DOES IT??? SO F.T.FO!!!! PEACE
MMFWCL TOO ALL FAMILY
*ASHLEE*
I’d like to give a hand of thanks to Melissa for the article. I hope it helps clarify things for those that don’t understand. She deffinately seemed to want to understand it all. Big thanks and MMFCL!
~Sorg
westernpajuggalos.com
Hell yah, that was the shit, everyone from the city paper was really nice, usually people treat us like were some kind of gang but i was treated like a person, and i love the article, by the way i got so many members that say they were refered by here, im happy about that to! nice pics also, you got some good shots
Hell yah, that was the shit, everyone from the city paper was really nice, usually people treat us like were some kind of gang but i was treated like a person, and i love the article, by the way i got so many members that say they were refered by here, im happy about that to! nice pics also, you got some good shots
As a juggalo I Want to say that this article is one of the best written things about ICP and the fam. Many people have read this and found out the tru us. If other Newspapers and media would write stuff like this,We could possably be accepted. ICP wont become mainstream, and it wont be cool to be Juggalo, like it is, But at least we can stop the hate between us and them,lol. Hell, think of it, if star wars bombed, people calling themselves Jedis would get the same reaction as us,lol.
PITTSBURG, KEEP IT DOWN FOR LIFE.
JUGGALOARMYICP,INDIANAPOLIS,INDIANA
hellz yea i effing love icp ahhh i dont know why i am commenting this but yea
Wicked Love
The Wicked Ninja
Much Clown Love Supersize (Josh) and all the other homies
I gotta say, I really liked this article. At first I was hesitant because I’ve read a lot of articles on juggalos and what you might call ‘juggaloism’ (I guess) that are very misleading. I was glad to see that this revealed a lot of truth and I am about to quote some stuff. Well that’s my two cents.
MCL to the fam. <3
Hell yeah whoop whoop
JUGGALO FAMILY!!!
yeah ive read a lot of stuff that dissed JUGGALOS .put this artical actualy talked about who we are and what we stand for ….
and all i got to say now is
MAGIC MAGIC NINJAS WHAT? MGIAC MAGIC NINJAS WHAT?
AND A FEW OTHER QUOTES FOR YA
“say what you will of me i will always have juggalo family”
“i live for the carnival i die for the carnival ”
“we will never die alone juggalos will carry on swing are hatchets if we must each and everyone of us”
MMFWCL
Joe
a haller at the juggalos and juggalettes in moberly latter
Not from Pittsburgh just came across this article. However, I’m glad that it doesn’t try to shed negative light on us and actually breaks down who we are and what we believe.
MMFWCL
Ashley
Hey I’m Ashley. God this newspaper totally rocks! In florida all we got are haters that just think juggalos/lettes are freaks. Down with the clown all the way. Never ever diss the hatchet. I laugh at all the people who think were low lifes. We’ll never die alone, Juggalos will carry on. Swing our hatchets if we must, EACH AND EVERY ONE OF US!!
MCL!
-PEACE.
i am a fuckin juggalette and i am so damn fuckin proud fuck all of you jaggalo and juggalette haterz… 🙁 ):
D!3 W!+h GRUDG3z
que paso!! I think dat people dat judge me and my family should go and fuck them shelfs i mean come on we don’t judge ur music like country,jazz!! so y should u get to judge mine and all da juggalo,and juggalette hoimes out there!
FUCK ALL JUGGALO ND JUGGALETTE HATERZ
R*I*P LIZZY AND DIZZY:)
wow i just actually read a whole newspaper article JUGGALO FOR FUCKIN LIFE FUCK THA HATERS MMFCL
juggalette for life
Juggalette 4 Life!! This is a family…I dont give a fuck wat other peole think bout us….
Keep it wicked fam!!!
MMFCL!!
Whoop Whoop!
Juggalo 4 Fuck’n Ever
Peace To The Family
MMFCL
And All Who Dont like us,
FUCK THEM ALL!! To Hell
juggalette chick ryt here yo i gots nothin negative to say jus dat juglo famly is real and we need to prove ppl wrong on how dey think of juglos or how dey see juglos all da negative stuff cant bring us down its jus words stay up peace im out JUGGALO FAMILY!!
cult? im not part of a cult, im part of a family. if it where a cult, everytime violent j or shaggy said to jump i’d be jumping,
i would believe all that comes out of their mouths, do i? hell the fuck no. i see my fellow juggalos as part of my family, they always have my back. we dont start shit, yeah theres a couple fuckups here and there, especially with all these wannabe juggalos aka juffalos[newschool juggalos who are just in it for the popularity, or who just blow it out of proportion] every family has their share of fuckups.
we’re all being profiled because of those who have messed up. but every clique/group has people who mess up. we just have a name on us so automatically that makes us a gang. Hippys, Punks, Metalheads, Goths, Rockers, Country, no matter what music you are interested in, there will always be the people who committ crimes.
persacute the rednecks/hillybillys who listen to country and kill people who are not of white heritage.
one juggalo kills someone, that juggalo does not speak for me, i speak for myself, i follow my own path and noone elses, i make my decisions, not music and not what someone else did.
that “juggalo” who is on trial for the killing in PA should deffinately be put away, there is no denying that, he is a sick individual and must have the mind of a 5 year old if he is going to take music that seriously.
dont profile all of us because of one persons mistakes, we are all individuals, we all live seperate lives, we all think differentally.
to the rest of my juggalo family reading this, MCL, and dont do anything to fuck up because if you do it will make everyone think that youre fuckup counts for the millions of juggalos in the world.
you know what, stay at home, get a bunch of bud and faygo and dont do anything for the rest of your life, this way there will be no reason for them to bitch about you doing anything.
well i understand juggalo family you dig. all better know the blood ninja way suoo woop blood. but to be down for the clown isnt just the fat you think you a ninja you got to fell it and thats just how it is the black sheep of succity fuck the real world 10/6 fam. mmfcl
all i got to say is that all these people sitting here talking shit on Juggalos stop talking sit back for a minute and think a family isn’t just someone that you live with, someone that cooks food for you evvery night , you can have the same blood and not be family a family is more then that a family is a group of people that have same intrest and that you love and care for and you would fight to protect no matter what and Juggalos are just that a family a group of people with same intrest same tast in music and people that can interact with one another without having to worry on getting your ass kicked so why is it that everyone is talking shit for doing the very same thing you do for your family so next time before you go and talk shit on someones family just know they are JUST LIKE YOU a family protecting your family… so juggalos if you feel me throw your hatchets in the air and give me a WHOOP WHOOP!!!
i agree with my boy spike. whats this cult stuff?!?! i dont get that we aint no “cult”.. WERE A FAMILY! we stand up for what we believe in! we got each others backs when things go up an down! for tha juggalos an juggalettes that fukk up horribly that do fukked up shit to other people they are not apart ov our family! what if family!? ask yourself well to meh family is a thing oc unity an respect! if you aint got that an you cant hold it down for tha dark carnival than you are not real!!! i gotta peace out!
a REAL muthafukkin JUGGALETTE,Tera
MMFWCL!
Spike, you said it the best. The part about the bud and Faygo more so than anything else, ha, just kidding.
But really, we are all family, and I don’t mean just Juggalos.
We as humans, are a family. Everyone knows that J and Shaggs are sometimes a tad violent in their lyrics, but look at the song ‘Let’s Go All The Way’ off of Bizzar; if more of those assholes who judge us would listen to that shit instead of just songs like ‘Fuck The World’ or
‘I Stuck Her With My Wang’
And just out of curiousity, why is that ICP are the only ones ever gone after. You never see Blaze or Twiztid or Boondox or AMB or Kid Crusher or anyone like that in Juggalo bashing acticles, I’ve just always wondered that.(not saying that this is one)
Anyway, to all the family reading this, I Love You, you know that. Be true to who you are, never be silenced and most importantly, have as much motherfuckin’ fun as you can!
By the way, any fine Juggalettes looking for someone to have intellegent conversations with, hit me up:
wickedjuggaloclown6907@gmail.com
“We will never die alone,
Juggalos will carry on.
Swing our hatchets if we must,
Each and everyone of us.”
-Juggalo Chant
yo dnt be sayin dat shit bout ne juggalo if a juggalo/lette gets violent, wants tu kill sombody or does they arent sick, if someone says ur sick or a psycho, a real juggalo razez both middle fingers n says thank yu, a real juggalo dont go sayin shit bout lockin de juggalo/juggalette brothers n sisters up fer dat shit, we dont give a fuck what people think or say about us, u wanna kill some mutha-fucka go for it, we arent gonna lock yup, were family we back broders n sisers up, peace
who u da b fuckin jujin otha juggalos bout da shit de du, n u fuckin racist u b sayin kill ppl who arent of white fuckin heritage, yo dats kinda racist, yu b doin dat shit violent-j n shaggy would personally chop u up
wtf iz that bitch talkin about?wtf a cult??talkin about white boys n shyt..u got a problem!deal wit it u dnt want a lette 2do it4u.lockin up family..dude get ur fkn priorities straight…FAM stands up4one anothr an we dnt snitch on another an definitly wouldnt wanna go thru life without them..im jus,,that shyt jus blows my mind….hey good piks tho!!lol
WHOOP WHOOP!!!
we are a family we arent a damn cult. we are against pedafiles,rapist,drunks,crak heads,all the people who think that life shud be waisted if u actually sit down and listen tu the music we lettes and juggalos love tu listen tu and actually pay attention tu the words youll will see we stand be hind god listen tu SHANGRI-LA, THY UNVEILING
I THINK ALL YOU DUMBAZZ PEOPLE WHO TALK SHIT BOUT MY JUGGALO FAM GO EAT SHIT AND FUK OFF..TU ALL MY FAMILY WHOOP WHOOP AND I WILL SEE U AT THE BANG POW BOOM!!! CONCERT IN TULSA MMFWCL
JUGGALOZ ARE THA SHIT !!! fuk ya all who hate uz fo no reason
MMFCL
Im Supersize’s(Josh) mom and we went to the 10th annual Gathering of the Juggalos 2009 and let me tell all you haters something,Im 47yrs old,and i had the best time of my life at the Gathering,You haters have it all wrong,you believe in shit thats not true,before you call these juggalos & lettes a cult,maybe u need to read up on your facts first so you dont come out looking like the fool that you are.
There were thousands and thousands of juggalos & lettes,i dont think there was another spot for another fan,thats how many people there were,we were there for 5 days and i only had 2 complaints…1) weather was to hot 2) that mother fucking megaphone all hours of the day & night…. other then that,i had a blast!
There is no cult,there isnt no murders or hiding bodies in the trunks but there is a bunch of great people of all ages walking around and having a great time listening to all the music & seeing & meeting new people,being able to walk around with a beer in ur hand and not be arrested for it,no one judged anyone,everyone came in all colors,all sizes,there wasnt no race issues,hate issues,better then you issues, people came from all over the world to be there,all walks of life,everyone had a great time and im sure if all you haters wanted to join in the fun,im sure we would welcome you all….Dont Judge Something You Know Nothing About…
BTW…Tech9 was the shit,kinda disappointed that i didnt get to see Wolfpack,i slept through it,even though we were right next to the second stage 🙁
Anywaysssss….Dont Hate,Appricate
dont hate what you know nothing about is how i put it ive bee ndown for 7 years and ill be down till the day that i die
all this shit started over a fucking flyer those stupid bitches
Mame, with all do respect you need to be a little more careful about how you word things. I am a Pastor for the Juggalo Nation. I am highly offended about your article. Yes you did print truth about the juggalo family. Although I severarly doubt that a juggalo propositioned a reporter with his lette standing there. I am completly offended by the falseness of such statements. Yes we are a family, but a cult we will never be. The juggalos like Josh understand what it is about, avoiding the evils of this physical life in exchange for eternal peace in shangri-la. Please i implore you to please do your research. And please understand the sevearity of prevoking this nation. You sound like a moron printing such reguritaited trash.
Anybody who finds this article offensive is fucking stupid it speaks the truth and nothing but the truth, get over yourself, oh and by the way look at me, I’m a Lette and I can spell correctly, holy shit! Dumb bitches.
Clearly krizlarue missed the part about a large number of Juggalo’s holding respected positions in society. “managerial IT shirt” that guy most likely makes more in a year than you will in your life. Funny concept. Anyways I’ve met cops, government officials, teachers, club owners, managers, hard working intelligent pioneering motherfuckers runnin with the fuckin hatchet. The faithful will find true peace in Shangri-la and all you haters can burn with your shit karma.
Misplaced hate and ignorance turns back the wheels of progress of our entire fucking civilization you halfwit. Dont they teach you tolerance and indifference in middle school? Or did you never go to middle school? Has it ever occured to you that some people use incorrect spelling/grammar as a means of expressing independence? Ive been a Juggalo since we were some poor lost fucks fighting for every scrap of respect we could get and lets face it folks, now some of the most rich and powerful got that way following the Juggalo lifestyle. Dont like it? Fuck you. A hater cant stand the sight of a real motherfucker and nobody is more real than true down ass Juggalo’s. Dont say the truth, spit the truth the way it is and the way it will always be. Fuck sugarcoating shit.
May we all prosper eternally. BTW Twiztid Renditions of Reality for anyone wondering what this shit is really about but doesent know where to start. Much love family. -J
Extra reading and WARNING this may fuck your brain so dare to comprehend it only if you have considered possibilities outside what the media funnels down your throat. I was surprised the mention of the Wraith without any talk of the controversy, many of us lost our way due to The Unveiling and many are still lost as a result, and I agree with them to the extent that the meaning as it was perceived by the world was incorrect and they certainly arent a mutant christian rap band. It is possible that 2 dope and J follow God, but through our own evolution we are discovering that “God” as it is portrayed in “Holy Scriptures” might not be all that accurate and that in reality God may be our bond with the universe itself. Living a bad life or not being good to your friends and family may disconnect you from the network of energy we all thrive in. Their meaning I believe was simply that. To trust, to love, and to have faith. Giving it a tangible face and personality is foolish enough and then passively demanding whatever the current currency is for the times is transparent at best but thats just my personal opinion. Do not follow “God” as it is preached to you while they pass around the fucking collection plate. Do not give God the first portion of your income (fans will like that one if u recall the song) but simply follow your own heart and be good to those around you. Follow whatever it is that God means to you and you will find your Shangri-la in death. Oh and for fucks sake dont be a jackass and post ignorant ass dumb shit comments on any cultures boards. Valid arguments and intelligent questions are good and healthy, but that shit was just stupid.
FUCKING MAGNETS HOW DO THEY WORK?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs
you people make jimmy buffett fans look like polymaths
Wow, I’m all for having family (relatives or extraordinary unrelated friends), but I’m not friggin desperate for love and family like most of you obvious nerds are. Now if ur under 16yrs old don’t get ur feelings all hurt, this isn’t addressed to you goobers, it’s for the dorks who never grew up and stopped identifying themselves through a band of uber-nerds.
LOL, just sampling some different culture and felt compelled to let y’all know that ur whole scene is really tired and definitely lame. I swear I don’t have a horse in this race, I could care less what other dork band y’all have friction with.
BTW: I really don’t think there is any sizeable layer of “powerful” juggalos out there (whichever one of you wrote about that?). Hate to disappoint, but the powerful stop returning calls from jokers like most of you at the beginning. Just move on, take the clown nose off and yank the orange wig off your receding-hair having heads, learn to spell, and try to make something important and interesting out of your remaining lives.
Good luck
for real i’m a juggalo and everyone is entitled to their own opinions and if you dont like us thats fine but if you talk sh** then your gonna get hit no two ways about it k? thats all seriously just keep your hatin mouths shut and there wont be any problems like for real let us be us and we will let you be you so F U!!!